Ekipa, udarna enajsterica in taktične zamisli

[rover]

Kot si rekel zadnji 4 gredo na posojo, za odhod upam na Marina, Bertranda, Mosesa, Mikela, Torresa in Ramiresa, ter da pride Pogba ali Khedira. V napadu si želim Costo, Drogbaja, Lukakuja in Bamforda (iz obeh zadnjih dveh igralcev bi lahko DD naredil gola mašine).

[bork]

Spletni portal Transfermarkt je včeraj naredi posodobitve glede cen igralcev.
Od naših je cena najbolj narastla Hazardu (45m€-48m€) in Schurrleju (20m€-23m€), najbolj pa je padla Fabregasu in sicer iz 50m€ na 40m€.

Naša najdražja možna postava:
-----------------Courtois (25m)--------------
Azpi (20m)--Ivke (17m)--Cahill (20m)--Luis (18m)--
--------Fabregas (40m) ---- Matić (26m)-------
Willian (30m) ----Oscar (36m)----- Hazard (48m)--
-------------------- Costa (38m) ----------------

Naša najdražja enajsterica je torej vredna 318m€.

Za primerjavo:
Liverpool - 196m€
United - 270m€
City - 301m€
Arsenal - 265m€
Real - 508m€
Barcelona - 472m€
Bayern - 399m€
Juventus - 222m€
PSG - 279m€

[rover]

All-Time Greatest Chelsea XI

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[blueboy11826]

V bistvu vse pričakovano

[bork]

Očitno je nekdo pred mano rešil popolnoma identično

[rover]

Sam bi pustil samo JT-ja, Fabregasa, Hazarda, Williana in Costo.

[glosos]

Vidim, da smo tu tu

[bork]

First year at Juve he played with a solid 433 which was beautiful to watch, and also very efficient; then he switched to 352 because of some injuries and because of wouldn't leave one between Barzagli, Bonucci and Chiellini on the bench.
His 352 is very slow paced with a lot of passages between the three defenders and the "regista" (who was Pirlo), lots of "blind long pasages" for either strikers or midfielders cutting from the outside to the inside of the field. I'm sorry, I don't know how to say most of roles in English.
Also, lots of triangulations between the two strikers, who play inside the field thus opening space for the two "wings" at the side of the 5-men midfield.
Plenty of possession, almost no counter attack.
Actually Italy plays very likely Juve used to do. Luckily used to do, now Juve plays better with Allegri.
His game is very speculative, not really pleasant to watch but it brings good results, generally. Expect few goals, his defense is rock-solid and his attack can be sterile sometimes.
That will hold if he plays 352 at Chelsea, but I have a feeling he'll change his style somehow.

One last thing: athletism is very important in PL, and he's very good at it. He has a degree about that. Expect Chelsea to be very good, on a fitness side.

A move back to a 4-3-3 looks likely given the players he has. Could you tell a bit more about how he implemented the 4-3-3 in terms of the kind of wide players and CMs he prefers?


Sure.

Let's start saying one thing: he played in one of the greatest teams ever, Lippi's Juventus which managed to play three CL finals in a row (albeit losing two, unfortunately). Apart from Zidane and Del Piero, who were the two stars of the team (Zidane not in '96, he still was at Bordeaux), the 'gem' of that team was the midfield: 3 midfielders, great players like Deschamps, Jugovic, P.Sousa, Di Livio, Davids, Tacchinardi and Conte.
Conte very likes a 3-men midfield, he's learnt a lot from his Juve days with Lippi.

Bearing that in mind, he like to have a 'regista' and two box-to-box CM, he especially favours a play where the regista passes the ball to one of the CM cutting inside the field. The two CMs have to cover the defense as well as pushing the attack.
At Chelsea I think he will play Fabregas as regista, Naingollan would be a perfect CM for him, possibly Khedira (but Juve won't sell him). In my opinion he'll buy a couple of midfielders as Chelsea lacks quality there.

As for the 'tridente', he played with Pepe and Vucinic on the sides (Pepe was very good at covering the defense and crossing the ball, Vucinic was quite strange, acted more likely a striker than a winger. The striker was Matri, not one of the best Juve had but still good. At Chelsea Conte could play with Hazard/Willian - D.Costa - Cuadrado/Pedro.
Expect a solid striker with a lot of movement, one 'tactical' winger (with tactical I mean a winger with defensive duties as well as pushing forwards) and a creative winger, which will likely be Hazard.

Looks for Juventus - Milan 2-0 (Marchisio, Marchisio) 2011/12, it's probably the best game with 433.

[michooo]

Sam si še vedno nekako želim, da bi igrali v sistemu 4-3-3.
Glede ekipe je moje razmišljanje nekako takole:

Courtois/Begović

Azpi/Ivke - Zouma/Cahill - Okrepitev1/Terry/Ivke - Baba/Azpi/Ake

Okrepitev2/RLC - Fabregas/Oscar/Mikel - Okrepitev3/Matić

Willian/Pedro/Cuadrado - Costa/Okrepitev4/Traore - Hazard/Kenedy

Cuadrada bi pustil predvsem zaradi možnosti, da lahko kdaj pa kdaj igramo tudi 352.

Moje želje so torej 4 novi igralci, verjetno pa bi preživeli tudi s "samo" eno okrepitvijo na sredini igrišča. Kot okrepitve bi bilo sijajno videti Naigollana in Kanteja v sredini, v obrambi tisti CB iz Napolija mnda ni slab in pa Morata v napadu. Imamo kar nekaj kakovostnih (a ne na nivoju naše ekipe) igralcev na posojah, ki bi jih lahko izkoristili pri pogajanjih za nakup igralcev (Salah, Moses, Chalobah, Djilobodji, Atsu), verjetno pa bi se dalo preživeti tudi brez Oscarja v vezi.

[bork]

Granitna obramba Italije, noro. Upam, da Conte spravi v red tudi našo obrambo. Pri golu Italije se je lepo videlo, kaj pomeni Bonucci - ballplaying CB za ta sistem. Za moje pojme najboljši branilec v tem trenutku.

Nainggolan? Solidno
Hazard? Poleg Tiboja najboljši igralec Belgije.
KDB? Upam da tole formo prenese v naslednjo sezono
Lukaku? Ne hvala, res sem razočaran. Podobno kot Morata za Špance.
Conte? Odlično!
Candreva? Odlično, škoda ker smo precej pokriti na njegovem položaju.

[rover]

Conte raztura ni kej in kako se je branil, ter hitro vzel žogo in šel v proti napad. Komej čakam, da vidim kako bo igral ta sistem 3-5-2 oz 5-3-2 in v napadu 4-3-3. Tud sam menim, da Morata, Lukaku in Naingolan niso prava izbira za nas.

[drogba90]

Danes sem na tekmi Poljska-Nemčija opazoval poljskega branilca Glika. Če vprašate mene bi bil idealen za Contejev sistem 352, saj je podoben tip igralca kot Bonucci. Dober pregled, odlično postavljanje, zelo dobre podaje...njegov prestop sploh ne bi bil tako zelo nemogoč, glede na to, da igra v Italiji. Sam se ga ne bi branil.

[rover]

Čez 2 leti bo zaradi Brexit-a oz odhoda Anglije iz EU spremenil sistem in bo pravi šok za vsa moštva, ki ima le par angležev. To velja tudi za Chelsea in bo potrebno kupovati angleže oz dati možnost svojim angleškim igralcem iz akademije.

[sigismund]

Lahko kdo razloži, kaj ima Brexit veze s številom igralcev v moštvu? Se je kdo poglobil?

[glosos]

Point je ta, da UK kot članica EU ne zahteva delovnega dovoljenja za ostale državljane EU.
To pomeni, da lahko znotraj 27 držav kupujejo in registriranjo igralce (iz vidika delovno pravne zakonodaje) brez omejitev.
Po tem, ko bo izstop UK iz EU dokončen (če ne bo kakih posebnih dogovorov, po katerih bi prost pretok delovne sile ostal - ampak to je zelo dvomljivo, glede na to da je bil to glavni argument za Brexit), bodo igralci iz Nemčije in Španije podvrženi enakim postopkom pridobitve delovnega dovoljenja, kot danes Brazilci in Nigerijci. Torej zahtevano določeno število nastopov za reprezentanco itd ...

Ne bo pa to vplivalo na pravila PL glede števila tujcev (homegrown etc ...), to je popolnoma v domeni PL, in nima nobene veze z Brexitom.