Poletni prestopni rok 2023

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Nekdo je izpostavil verjetnost slabše skok igre v kombinaciji Ugarte/Fernandez kar je malo zaskrbljujoče, po drugi strani pa razmišljam, da verjetno tudi nismo blesteli v tem segmentu, ko sta bila na igrišču Jorginho/Kante. Sem pa na zadnjih tekmah opazil tudi slabo pobiranje drugih žog, kar me je verjetno od vsega najbolj zmotilo.
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V modernem nogometu - so vsi vezisti res visoki? Kroos-Modrič npr.
Ligo prvakov smo osvojili s Kantejem in Jorginhom.
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Kante je za svojo višino kar dober v skoku se mi zdi, ni pa slabo imeti nekoga zanesljivega ja, Enzo to ni, Ugarteja premalo poznam.
Kar berem danes - smo zainteresirani da poleg Ugarteja pripeljemo še Caiceda, kar se mi zdi dost nesmiselno.
In Real naj bi bil zainteresiran za Havertza, Poch pa si želi Valverdeja, če bi nam nekako uspela ta zamenjava bi blo top.
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Manchester United have opened talks over a deal worth £50m-60m for Mason Mount but Chelsea wants £70m+add-ons. Mason Mount rejected several offers from Chelsea and now looks certain to leave his boyhood club. The highest one was about £200,000 a week. (via @JacobSteinberg)

Kar se Ugarteja tiče, PSG mu ponuja 5mio, mi pa 3,5mio + bonuse, kar verjetno znese cca 4mio. To je še vedno kar velika razlika + ne moremo mu ponuditi UCL nogometa.
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blueboy11826 wrote: 03 Jun 2023, 12:28 Kar berem danes - smo zainteresirani da poleg Ugarteja pripeljemo še Caiceda, kar se mi zdi dost nesmiselno.
Zakaj? Mel bi poleg Enza 2 vrhunska mlada CDM/CMja. Če mamo samo Enza in Ugarteja in se en od njiju težje poškoduje bo spet frka.
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Iz mojega vidika je to finančni nesmisel. Denarja nimamo na pretek.
Pa tudi to, da vsi naenkrat ne bodo mogli razvijati svojega potenciala do maksimuma.
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Real Valverdeja ne bo prodal, tako da na to lahko pozabimo.

Se mi pa zdi smiselno pripeljati Ugarteja IN Caiceda. Sta različna tipa igralcev in bi lahko lepo kombinirali sredino z njima in Enzom. V sistemu 4-3-3 bi igrali vsi trije, v sistemu 4-2-3-1 pa dva, eden bi bil v rotaciji. Caicedo je itak no-brainer, za Ugarteja pa smo lahko veseli, da nas bo zbral PSG (če nas bo).

Glede na vse odhode vezistov (Mount, RLC, Zakaria, Kovacic in očitno tudi Kante), bo treba kupiti več kot zgolj enega vezista.
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Točno to redminer, sem enakega mnenja. 433 bomo igral z dvema CDMjema in Enzom? Nevem, ne zdi se preveč smiselno.
Valverde je igralec, ki bi pasal v ta sistem s CDMjem in Enzom, ampak tudi jaz ne verjamem, da bi ga Real prodal, zato nekdo, ki lahko ponudi nekaj podobnega, kot sem rekel Eze. Bomo vidl na koga bo pa naša uprava še štartala.
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Pa sej vloge vezistov v 4-3-3 so lahko zlo različne, ni rečeno da morata levi in desni vezni bit vrhunska v kreaciji, vse je odvisno od trenerjeve filozofije, ostalih igralcev, itd.
Recimo pod Sarrijem smo mel Kanteja, ki je po mnenju marsikoga pravi CDM, ki ni igral na tem položaju in Jorginha ki za marsikoga ni pravi CDM in je igral na tem položaju.
Pa ne me narobe razumet, se strinjam, da je Eze ful zanimiv igralec, ki bi lahko pasu tu not.
Sicer bomo itak najbrž večinoma igral 4-2-3-1 in ne v vsamem primeru fajn met 2 igralca, ki znata dobro odigrat to defenzivno vlogo.
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BREAKING: Manuel Ugarte is a CHELSEA player. ITS DONE. (@Record_Portugal)
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Chelsea, advancing on Manuel Ugarte deal and very confident — negotiation not closed or completed yet. There are still things, details left to get it sealed #CFC

Chelsea cautious on Ugarte deal until they arrive to documents stage after Enzo saga with Benfica in January.

- Fabrizio

Verjetno je že ustni dogovor za prestop med vpletenimi stranmi, ni pa še ”uradn” done deal.
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Understand Manuel Ugarte has verbally said yes to Chelsea, since new wage offer.

Few bits to resolve player side, as needs to be officially drawn up.

Transfer fee also to be officially submitted, but not expected to be an issue. Chelsea extremely confident & it's very advanced.

-Felix

Evo še en report.
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Understand Chelsea expected to push for André Onana.

Told Inter are fans of Edouard Mendy, so it’s seen as a more feasible deal out of the goalkeeper list.

Inter are very open to part-exchange deals. They like a lot of Chelsea players, which could also be relevant to Lautaro.
Moises Caicedo is still a huge priority, but he is expected to be pushed once some sales are completed.


Chelsea held talks with Brighton recently, as revealed. Caicedo was discussed.

Brighton have not put a price tag on Caicedo yet.


Understand Pochettino is still pushing heavily for Lautaro Martinez.

Told Poch has spoken to directors on how Lautaro would galvanise attack, in order to push deal.

Told Poch has directly spoken to his camp to enquire if Lautaro would be open to a move. He’s being very direct.

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Tole z Ugartejem še ni done deal, je pa blizu:

Sporting are encouraging and pushing Manuel Ugarte to choose Chelsea ahead of PSG, who are still hoping to convince him. The 22-year-old has not yet agreed to anything but a full agreement between Chelsea and Sporting is now close.

- @LaurensJulien


Drugače sta Ugarte in Caicedo dosti različna tipa igralcev. Caicedo je po stilu igre podoben Kanteju, medtem ko je Ugarte bližje Rodriju… tako da sta brez težav hkrati na igrišču.
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Onana in Lautara pozabte, nc nebo ker sta zadovoljna v Interju in zelita tam ostati.
Stem da se Ligo prvakov igrajo.
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